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Hi Abby,

I think this will be a great project that can add another dimension to American history teaching and learning. It can get students to think about history as relative and constructed, and as narrative, and also get them to understand why it is so important. So many of them seem to be bored by it, and feel like it's just collections of names and dates. My only thought is not to neglect the visual components of these text books. Even if the early ones don't have photographs, they probably have visual representations which were meant to convey and shape historical meaning in particular ways. Students are also very visual and getting them to question why these images were used, especially in combination with text, could help connect them to the process.

-Hanan

by hohayonhohayon, 08 Mar 2012 19:21

It seems to me like you made the right choice using XML. I think there is a great deal you can do as far as tagging with these diaries.

Tagging Choices by NYUCaitlyn88NYUCaitlyn88, 07 Apr 2011 03:09

This is an excellent example of detailed document tagging. I will certainly use this for reference when I go to draft my proposal. Great Work!

by kearakeara, 07 May 2009 01:39

Your tagging options seem really detailed and well formulated. I liked how you opted to organze the photos, and tag each level.

by normajeannormajean, 03 May 2009 03:29

I really like how much information you will digitizing, making your archive really diverse. I would agree, as you stated above, that this will engage viewers even more so then if you just had pictures. You did mention that 40% of your digitzed items will be transcripted, which student-interns will be doing. Will you be paying these inters? Have you thought how long that will take? Really great job.

by normajeannormajean, 03 May 2009 03:27

I really like how your site will be constantly evolving as people make comments, it relates the project to the present. Really great idea, have you thought about how much time this is going to take each month- how much time a staff member will have to donate?

by normajeannormajean, 03 May 2009 03:22

- I think this is such an interesting project… especially because it gives an inside look into the midset of professional female historians, as they represent different sides of the same case. As you develope the grant you may want to think about making a connection to the present. Are you aware of the statistics today regarding women in higher sales positions? It may be an interesting connection. Really great job.

by normajeannormajean, 03 May 2009 03:15

Kate:

Whenever you include salary you also need to include fringe benefits, which are expressed as a percentage of salary. Every organization has different rates, at NYU it is 27% of the salary, for all employees, not just full timers— so add another $16,942 to the budget.

You'll also want to include a couple of thousand for supplies; it takes paper, printer cartridges, pens, filing supplies and the like to run these projects.


Cathy Moran Hajo

Fringe Benefits by CHajoCHajo, 27 Apr 2009 23:55
pba216pba216 23 Apr 2009 17:14
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Brooklyn Sports Tagging

I think Dublin Core would work well with your project, since the tagging is straight forward and DC will keep the process from becoming to complicated. You mention the part-time student will do the tagging in html, is there a reason your choosing not to use xml. Overall though, I think your tagging overview is very detailed and is an A+ job.

by pba216pba216, 23 Apr 2009 17:14

I agree with Lindsay that your use of multiple timelines is a good idea. However, it could be overwhelming for the website user to be presented with 3 time lines and reference guides. How will you design your site so that the users can easily navigate the site while still having all of these options? Perhaps you could also give some examples of how to use the search options so we can understand the benefits of the layout you have created for website users. Great job!

some thoughts... by jrs358jrs358, 07 Apr 2009 07:06

Your added features are great. I especially like the one where you can browse through the cruise books by flipping the pages as a way to maintain the artifact's original form and the way previous viewers have engaged with the object. I also like the academic tools for both teachers and students. However, perhaps a different title would be more engaging for these audiences? If possible, creating an outline of the search box and the search options would be helpful.

Great job! I'm looking forward to learning more about your project!

some thoughts... by jrs358jrs358, 07 Apr 2009 06:52

I like that you are planning to design your search options so that they are accessible for students. In terms of the drop down menu, I was wondering how many athletes would appear under the "names" section. Have you thought about using a timeline? Since students are familiar with this tool from school, this may provide them with another gateway for exploring our site. Perhaps the timeline could be interactive? Also, a map of Brooklyn with all the stadia could be fun for students. Many of them probably do not know where the Dodgers stadium was in addition to other stadia that has been torn down. Perhaps for older audiences some kind of memory bank about the BK Dodgers would be a fun way to invite people to contribute to the website and personalize it. I'm looking forward to hearing more about the project! I think people will take a great deal of interest in the subject matter that you have proposed.

some thoughts... by jrs358jrs358, 07 Apr 2009 06:21

The description for your digitization process is sound. The qualifiers you chose are clear and should help the archivists identify the files easily. I like your decision to scan all of the images in color to maintain better quality. Your description of the adjustments that would be made and the examples you posted documenting the size of the thumbnails gave me a good sense of your process. Nice job!

some thoughts... by jrs358jrs358, 07 Apr 2009 06:01

The added value section of your project is very well thought out. The outline for the metadata is sound. Some clarification about what your search box would look like would be good. Perhaps listing the various search options and/or drop down menus would help. I think the timeline will be useful to researchers. Would the digitized documents or their transcriptions be linked to this timeline? At the end of your description you wrote about researchers contributing to the site. Will there be some type of application for them to do this?

Great job!

some thoughts and questions by jrs358jrs358, 07 Apr 2009 05:51

I like very much that the scope of this site is well defined and finite. This doesn't mean it can't grow or develop in unexpected directions, but the purpose and the "story" of the site are clear. In my opinion this produces the most satisfying experience with a website. Even if a accidental visitor arrives knowing little or nothing about a topic, if the boundaries of the topic are clearly defined, one can enjoy the experience of "meeting" a new topic if it is presented clearly and without complication.

One suggestion I might make concerns your site navigation. On your bullet-point list of site organization you have several points that might be combined to have fewer headings. This makes the site easier to understand as well as navigate. Also, I noticed that you are developing a top navigation bar and a left navigation bar. This is a good approach as long as it doesn't become confusing. As a general rule, website navigation should be so clear and self-evident as to see entirely transparent. If the top bar and the left navigation aren't clearly related this can become confusing. One way to avoid confusion is to combine the functions of the two such as using the left navigation provide sub-menus for the top bar. It could be this is what you intend but at this stage that isn't obvious.

Even though I have no prior knowledge of this topic and I am not generally interested in college sports, I would enjoy visiting the site because of its compact presentation of the topic. Nice job! I look forward to seeing the finished site!

Carl.

Ashley,

I really like the idea of the timeline permanently on the screen to allow people to see the whole scope of the period you are covering, and the extent to which you are going to provide a lot of supplementary information for the people/acronyms/organizations, etc. Also, I'm not sure if you are planning on providing any examples or a partial list anywhere, but the book An American Ordeal: The Anti-War Movement in the Vietnam Era by Charles DeBenedetti is a great resource for really complete lists and descriptions of acronyms/organizations and might prove to be a useful resource.

by Lindsay DLindsay D, 23 Mar 2009 00:23

I think your idea of having multiple timelines is very interesting, will you be able to view them all at the same time or will they overlap and be distinguished by maybe a color code? Also, I was wondering what keywords you were planning on tagging and how the search will be set up in a little more detail. Will there be a basic and advanced search? I agree that making it accessible to high schools and older is important, I was hoping you might be able to explain it a little more. Sounds like you're definitely on the right track and you are really doing a lot to make it very accessible too!

by Lindsay DLindsay D, 23 Mar 2009 00:12

Pete,

I like the idea of placing the games within a timeline that also provides a little background to the time periods in terms of what was going on generally at NYU and the world, as long as the games remain the focus of the timeline, which it seems like they will. The one question I had about your search is with terms such as "win" "loss" "home" "away", will they require other search terms, like the school names? Will home always mean NYU or could you search another school and "home"? I think those are very useful and necessary search terms, I'm just wondering how they will be defined or utilized in the search set up. Overall, I think it is very well done!

by Lindsay DLindsay D, 23 Mar 2009 00:00
Lindsay DLindsay D 22 Mar 2009 23:50
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Roman Vishniac Added

Joanna,

I think that for adding value to your site, you really are utilizing items such as a timeline and map in a manner that actually assist in elucidating your subject. Are these items going to be linked at all to actual photographs you are digitizing? Will you be able to easily see the map when looking at photographs from the cities Vishniac photographed? I think that that will greatly enhance the experience of those photographs, especially since you have "location" as a way of searching. Gateways to the items from your added value tools may create an interesting user experience, but at the very least, I think that making those great tools easily accessible when examining the photographs would be very useful.

by Lindsay DLindsay D, 22 Mar 2009 23:50

Pete,
I really appreciate you clear depiction of your search screen, and I think all of those categories are useful. However, I'm a little confused about how users will be able to browse the material. I see that each program will be tagged with subjects, and it is possible for users to browse a list of these subjects on a separate page or at the bottom of the navigator pages. But what happens when one clicks on one of these subjects? Do I get a list of all the programs that are tagged with that subject? How would I then narrow my choices? For example, if I wanted something from the depression era and an away game.
Overall, this looks great!

Kate

by katedundonkatedundon, 12 Mar 2009 20:36
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